Consesnt vs. Responsibility;
HAXScott at aol.com
HAXScott at aol.com
Sun Nov 5 20:28:46 GMT 2006
Obviously the EMT's who responded were neither stellar clinically nor
particularly interested or concerned to hear your part of the story. I agree
strongly with Dr. Krin - any EMS provider, hearing that story, should be concerned
for EDH, and at least try to convince the patient to go to the ED via EMS. If
he still refuses after demonstrating an understanding of the risks of
refusing transport (although by your description, I doubt the EMS providers did
that), and he's competent, then he has the right to refuse - however... two
thoughts. I think this is a case that illustrates quite well an example of a
patient refusal that on-line medical direction could be involved in. We've even
had the patient speak to the ED attending providing medical control, any in
many cases, if the physician says they should be seen, they may heed his or her
advice. My second thought is, where were the cops? They can often talk some
sense into people who don't want to go to the ED via ambulance, and they could
certainly tell this kid's boss to butt out.
As others have said, you did what you could - in fact, it sounds like you
did much more than I would have done unless the person involved was a friend or
family. If it still upsets you, and the EMS providers acted the way you
describe, perhaps you ought to discuss it with their agency, medical director,
regional or state EMS office, etc.
Finally, as far as initial triage, if a trauma center was accessible by
ground EMS, and he were transported by EMS, I would absolutely expect him,
despite his GCS of 15 and lack of physiologic derangement or major obvious injury,
to go to the trauma center.
Sounds like a happening club.
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