Odd head injury

[Dean Lutrin]

Walter, didn't do a level but one could get drunk just by being near him.
Perhaps his ingestion was just prior to his fall.

Thanks

dean

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On Behalf Of Walter.Mauritz at auva.at
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Odd head injury

Dean,

what was the alcohol level (or serum osmo)?
If he had a couple of drinks just before the accident the full effect of
alcohol intoxication may not have been apparent at admission.

best wishes

Walter Mauritz MD PhD
Professor of Anesthesia and Critical Care Medicine
Trauma Hospital "Lorenz Boehler"
A - 1200 Vienna, AUSTRIA, EU
phone: ++43 1 33110 789
fax: ++43 1 33110 277
e-mail: walter.mauritz at auva.at


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Dean

All I could suggest is rapidly reversing DAI, which is not usually
visible on CT. Did he get a re-scan after the GCS drop or was that the
first scan. Last q - did you check for "tik" drug?

Tim
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[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]On Behalf Of Dean Lutrin
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Subject: Odd head injury


Dear Listmembers

I would like an opinion on a recent case I saw. Young male thrown off a
bridge - didn't get any more details. Came in slightly confused (GCS
14/15)
with a a fractured wrist and ankle. It was one of those nights in a
Johannesburg trauma unit and I had to run off to sort out another
patient
and I left my patient with one of the interns. I wasn't too worried
about
him compared with the other patients I had to sort out. Came back to him
an
hour later and he was comatose. GCS 3/15. Intubated without drugs. CT
brain
normal. Nothing else on imaging aside from wrist and ankle. Ventilated
overnight with good spontaneous respiratory effort and reactive pupils.
GCS
still 2/10. Next day started waking up quite nicely. Extubated 36 hours
after initial injury with full recollection of everything up to arrival
at
hospital. Resources didn't allow me to CT again before extubation. Full
toxic screen negative, but patient was drunk.

Questions

1. was this just a concussion?
2. I have never seen a patient drop to 3/15 from 14/15 with a normal CT
and
then have a full recovery. Is it common?
3. Anything else could have caused it?

Thanks

Dean Lutrin
JHB, SA

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