Army Trauma Medidine: NY Times

[Robert F. Smith]

I was interested to learn what Dr. Holcomb has done, but yeah I see what you
mean.

Rob

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I'm only saying, that with the headline and the quote by the other trauma
surgeon, there was a negative spin on what is a positive outcome for a very
difficult task.  I didn't mean to imply that Dr. Holcomb had a negative
light shed on him, per se.  Had it not been for his quotes though...
 
I guess what I would really like to know is: what was the purpose of the
article?  Really?  It didn't have much meat, if you know what I mean.
That's why I think the other surgeon may have an axe to grind.
 
RD



> From: rfsmithmd at comcast.net> To: trauma-list at trauma.org> Date: Wed, 7 Nov
2007 13:47:43 -0500> Subject: RE: Army Trauma Medidine: NY Times> > If the
NYTimes is like other newspapers, the guy who writes the story> doesn’t
write the headline, which I thought was the negative sounding part.> I
thought the article made it sound like Dr. Holcomb had accomplished a lot>
of important and positive changes in the Army's Trauma System. He seemed>
very focused and dedicated and I thought he repeatedly made the point that>
it was imperative that the knowledge gained from this terrible experience
be> used to improve trauma care for soldiers and civilians alike. I also
thought> he sounded pretty forthcoming about the trials, the lack of
strongly> positive data and his rationale for going ahead anyway. Artificial
blood has> been a very difficult "Holy Grail" for a long time. Lots of
previously> promising products have not panned out. To say the least.> > Rob
Smith> > -----Original Message-----> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]> On Behalf Of Roy Danks> Sent:
Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:26 PM> To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing
list> Subject: RE: Army Trauma Medidine: NY Times> > > > This blog will
likely generate a huge response, so clear your inbox out!> > I'm a huge
proponent of Col Holcomb's. I've met the man and talked to him.> He is the
consummate gentleman and a scholar among scholars.> > What is conspicuously
missing from the NY Times article is the fact,> undisputable in my mind,
that war, as horrible as it is, helps trauma> surgery/care make strides of
nearly exponential gain. All wars have done> this. Look in the first chpt of
Mattox's book...much is about the advances> of trauma surgery as it pertains
to war.> > What Col Holcomb is doing in the war (not alone, of course) is
making the> necessary adjustments in the midst of very trying and difficult>
circumstances, with injuries that most of us outside of the armed forces>
will see only a smattering of in our career.> > > Sounds to me like Dr.
Shorr may have an axe to grind.> > If you've not read Mash, an Army Surgeon
in Korea, Otto F. Apel, I strongly> recommend it. His early work on arterial
"transplants" is in the book. Not> entirely ethical by today's standards,
but certainly was a major> advancement.> > This war is going to take hits
from all angles. I'll leave my 2 cents out.> But I support what the military
surgeons, nurses, medics, etc are doing over> there 110%. The NY Times will
slant anything they can away from the> positive if it advances their
agenda.> > RRD> > >
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