Pelvic fracture
Richard Wigle MD FACS
rlwigle at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 28 02:18:54 GMT 2007
Having had the opportunity to hear Dr Moore speak on this
topic I would very much like to have access to this
presentation. This link- and the previous link- are,
however not working for me despite my trying all the usual
tricks to milk reticent data from web sites. Any other
suggestions?
R Wigle
--- Stephen Luk <Sluk at harthosp.org> wrote:
> A presentation by Dr. Moore from the Panamerican Trauma
> Society meeting
> on Pelvic Packing.
>
>
http://www.panamtrauma.org/Lectures/Pelvic%20Retroperitoneal%20Packing%20Related%20to%20Hemorrhage%20by%20Fractures/player.html
>
>
>
>
> Stephen S. Luk, MD, FACS, FCCP
> Assistant Professor of Surgery
> Associate Director of Trauma
> Medical Director, ATOM Course
> Hartford Hospital
> EMS/Trauma Program
> 80 Seymour Street
> Hartford, CT 06102-5037
> (860) 545-3766
> sluk at harthosp.org
>
>
> >>> Olav Røise <olav.roise at medisin.uio.no> 10/27/2007
> 10:26 AM >>>
> I agree with Ken Mattox. I introduced extrapelvic packing
> in Oslo in
> 1994
> and it has been part of our pelvic bleeding protocol ever
> since.
>
> So as the patient is haemodynamically unstable this would
> be the option
> in
> this case. First the fracture should be stabilized with
> the binder or
> sheet
> around the trochanter region and kept in place during the
> surgical
> procedure
> of damage control.
>
> For the urethral injury I would not have put the catheter
> in before
> the
> urethra was cleared by an urethra-graphy. It is known
> that catheter
> can put
> a partial rupture into a total disruption. I would not
> focus on the
> urethra
> before the pelvic bleed is under controll.
>
> With regard to the possible rectal injury we are doing a
> rectal/sigmoidoscopy to exclude injury. We have seen
> false negative
> contrast
> exam. of the rectum. This has of low priority and should
> not be done
> before
> control of the bleed. Eventually a sigmoidotomy shoul be
> done - keeping
> in
> mind the later reconstruction of the pelvis - and talk to
> the pelvic
> surgeon
> to avoid incision conflict for later reconstruction of
> the pelvis
>
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Olav
>
> Olav Røise
>
> Division of Neuroscience and Muscoloskeletal Medicine,
> Ullevaal
> University
> Hospital, Oslo
>
> Cellular phone;+4790895062
> E-mail;olro at uus.no or; olav.roise at medisin.uio.no
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
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> On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
> Sent: 27. oktober 2007 15:44
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Cc: ccm-l at ccm-l.org
> Subject: Re: Pelvic fracture
>
>
> In a message dated 10/27/2007 5:39:42 A.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> hpb.surgery at gmail.com writes:
>
> 1. Pelvic fracture + suspected ongoing retro peritoneal
> venous bleed,
> what
> surgical strategy would you employ?
> 2. If a rectal tear is suspected, without any perioneal
> trauma, how
> would
> you
> de-function, loop colostomy? Or end colostomy and mucous
> fistula?
> Would you
> try and establish the site of perforation - on-table
> flexible
> sigmoidoscopy
> etc.?
>
>
>
> I agree with Bjorn regarding the excessive fluid
> administration.
>
> The patient appears to be hemodynamically stable. If
> unstable, then
> one
> of several tactics to impede ongoing blood loss is
> indicated. I
> have
> never
> been totally satisfied with arterial embolization for
> control of
> venous
> bleeding. I also have not been satisfied with
> external fixation to
> reduce blood
> loss. The orthopedic community is mixed in its support
> of external
>
> fixation. The new extra peritoneal packing as reported
> from Europe
> and
> from a
> couple of centers in the United States bears watching.
> I might have
>
> considered such a procedure in this patient. It is a
> temporizing
> ("damage
> control")
> tactic.
>
> With the case as you describe, I would consider going to
> OR for an
> examination under anesthesia, looking mainly at the
> rectum. For
> this one
> does not
> need to do a flexible sigmoidoscopy, as it is only the
> rectum which is
> of
> concern. This can be done with a straight short
> scope. Even a
> full
> thickness injury might be missed, but your CT
> description is
> suggestive of
> a rectal
> injury. I would strongly consider a LOOP colostomy,
> but to be
> sure
> that
> the distal stoma is totally defunctionalized, unless the
> patient is
> obese
> and the mesentery is foreshortened and to do a loop would
> create
> vascular
> compromise to the exteriorized
> segment. If the patient's pelvis
> was
> operatively repaired, and he did not become febrile, I
> would study
> the
> distal rectum
> via the loop colostomy and if NO LEAK, I would consider
> closing this
> colostomy
> at the first hospitalization.
>
> k
>
>
>
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