Aeromedical AGENDA items

KMATTOX at aol.com KMATTOX at aol.com
Sat Jul 19 01:07:11 BST 2008 

I might suggest that persons here suggest REALISTIC agenda items which  might 
be included in such a task force.     I have at least  4 agenda items to 
suggest, but I do believe that all who participated in this  discussion earlier 
should submit.  
 
k
 
 
In a message dated 7/18/2008 7:00:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jkaymdc at aim.com writes:

>From  what I have been told, this is a convening of possibly ALL the
Aeromedical  services across the country. I would imagine that includes other
states,  no?

I didn't weigh in with an opinion on it, I simply stated there was  a group
forming...however..................

It may not be ideal, but  decisions can't and shouldn't be made about an
industry without the  industry being a part of it, yes?

Should there be an independent panel  with input from the industry? of
course...NON-stakeholder only? Not in my  opinion.

Most non-stakeholder groups I've observed and been a part of,  make some
pretty important decisions for an industry without understanding  THAT
industry.

Look at the Ryan White Act....non-EMS stakeholders  made the decisions on the
revision of that bill and notification of EMS  personnel by hospitals for a
potential exposure disappeared because "It  didn't affect any of us so when
we were reviewing the bill we didn't think  it was important to keep in it"..

My point being....we should be  unified on this and NOT allow more
fragmentation to take  place.

Jules

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Marc Matthews -  MedPro MMC X <
Marc_Matthews at medprodoctors.com> wrote:

>  And what does the data say? Are you going to use data? Who has the data  
you
> are looking for? Or will this be a "feel-good
>  
shoot-from-the-hip-emotional-see-look-what-I-did-at-least-something-so-the-government-doesn't-do-something-first"
>  meeting, putting the same sort or types of policies together? I would  
think
> that an independent panel of non-stakeholders that can have an  objective
> view supported by current data, will go much farther and  have more meaning
> to implement change. Any other way is suspect. Also,  please consider what
> individual states have to say about new rules as  each may have different
> laws and ideas for safety.
>
> My  two cents . . .
>
> MRM
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> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org  [mailto:
> trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Jules
>  Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 4:27 PM
> To: Trauma &amp, Critical Care  mailing list
> Subject: Re: Aeromedical Task Force Idea
>
>  Hello,
>
> I have heard the aeromedical folks are convening a  large group of
> stakeholders and holding a meeting this month or next.  I would imagine they
> would be able to advise about representation at  that meeting...seems
> redundant and detrimental to them and EMS to form  different task
> forces/groups. Should be all be in this together? I  would imagine NAEMT
> would be a significant partner in this  group.
>
> Jules
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:22 PM,  Bob Waddell <bobwaddell at bresnan.net>
> wrote:
>
> >  Absolutely Dr. Mattox!  Is this a discussion/forum that could be
>  > requested at the 2009 Trauma conference?  I think (personally)  there
> > are a lot of "best practices" and "best - don't do that"  that needs to
> > be shared, may one of the conferences would be the  venue to allow the
> > openness to discuss and the credibility to  adapt.  I would be happy to
> > submit the proposal, make the  coffee, or whatever needs to be done.
> > Thanks.
>  >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Bob
>  >
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> >
> > -----Original  Message-----
> > From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org  [mailto:
> > trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
> > On Behalf  Of KMATTOX at aol.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:04 PM
>  > To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> > Subject: Re: Aeromedical Task  Force Idea
> >
> > I am extremely interested.  I do  believe that the local trauma centers
> > trauma directors should be  in the discussion.   We also discussed the
> > CRITERIA  for
> > using helicopters.   If we merely address safety,  we will  not have
> address
> > the root cause and root  problem.
> >
> > k
> >
> >
> > In  a message dated 7/18/2008 11:10:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >  bobwaddell at bresnan.net writes:
> >
> > In the   immediate aftermath of the Flagstaff crash, there was
> > discussion  on the  list about forming a group, perhaps affiliated with
> >  one or more of  the national organizations related to EMS or  trauma
> > care to work  towards improving the safety of  aeromedical operations.
> > Is anyone  still interested in  pursuing this?  I am very interested in
> > it given  both  my background and current work.  Please feel free to
> > contact  me  either on- or off-list to discuss it.
> >
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