Aeromedical Task Force Idea

KMATTOX at aol.com KMATTOX at aol.com
Sat Jul 19 02:20:26 BST 2008


In my SIMPLE MINDED review of papers and persons I see on the news to be  
FLOWN by Helicopter, more than 90% did not have a DISTANCE, Wilderness terrain  
or water, or clinical condition which warrented the AIR AMBULANCE  flight.      
Most of those papers and cases I have  review would have been more 
expediciously taken by ground.    so.....................
 
7.     Specific diagnoses and criteria warrenting  helicopter transport
8.    Distances below which helicopter use should NOT  be used
9.    Weather minimums
10.    Mandated review of all flights on  appropriateness by the regional 
trauma center - Level I M&M process.  
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/18/2008 8:17:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Marc_Matthews at medprodoctors.com writes:

The  legislature can . . . and will . . .  

MRM

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From:  trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of Louis N. Molino, Sr.
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Subject: Re: Aeromedical Task Force Idea



Part of the  issue however is regardless of what a state feels they can't 
regulate the aero  anything industry.

LNM
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Marc Matthews - MedPro  MMC X" <Marc_Matthews at medprodoctors.com>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008  16:39:29
To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing  list<trauma-list at trauma.org>
Subject: RE: Aeromedical Task Force  Idea


And what does the data say? Are you going to use data? Who has  the data you 
are looking for? Or will this be a "feel-good  
shoot-from-the-hip-emotional-see-look-what-I-did-at-least-something-so-the-government-doesn't-do-something-fir
st"  meeting, putting the same sort or types of policies together? I would 
think  that an independent panel of non-stakeholders that can have an objective 
view  supported by current data, will go much farther and have more meaning to 
 implement change. Any other way is suspect. Also, please consider what  
individual states have to say about new rules as each may have different laws  and 
ideas for safety.

My two cents . .  .

MRM


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-----Original  Message-----
From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org  [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] 
On Behalf Of Jules
Sent: Friday,  July 18, 2008 4:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Aeromedical Task Force Idea

Hello,

I have  heard the aeromedical folks are convening a large group of 
stakeholders and  holding a meeting this month or next. I would imagine they would be 
able to  advise about representation at that meeting...seems redundant and 
detrimental  to them and EMS to form different task forces/groups. Should be all be 
in this  together? I would imagine NAEMT would be a significant partner in 
this  group.

Jules

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Bob Waddell  <bobwaddell at bresnan.net> wrote:

> Absolutely Dr. Mattox!   Is this a discussion/forum that could be
> requested at the 2009 Trauma  conference?  I think (personally) there
> are a lot of "best  practices" and "best - don't do that" that needs to
> be shared, may one  of the conferences would be the venue to allow the
> openness to discuss  and the credibility to adapt.  I would be happy to
> submit the  proposal, make the coffee, or whatever needs to be done. 
>  Thanks.
>
> Take care,
>
> Bob
>
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>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:
>  trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
> On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
>  Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:04 PM
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
>  Subject: Re: Aeromedical Task Force Idea
>
> I am extremely  interested.  I do believe that the local trauma centers
> trauma  directors should be in the discussion.   We also discussed  the
> CRITERIA for
> using helicopters.   If we merely  address safety, we will  not have address
> the root cause and root  problem.
>
> k
>
>
> In a message dated  7/18/2008 11:10:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> bobwaddell at bresnan.net  writes:
>
> In the  immediate aftermath of the Flagstaff  crash, there was
> discussion on the  list about forming a group,  perhaps affiliated with
> one or more of  the national  organizations related to EMS or trauma
> care to work  towards  improving the safety of aeromedical operations. 
> Is anyone  still  interested in pursuing this?  I am very interested in
> it  given  both my background and current work.  Please feel free  to
> contact me  either on- or off-list to discuss  it.
>
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