interesting zone I GSW

[sjasmd at aol.com]

HAIM
what is the evidence for accuracy of CTA compared to 


sal


-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Haim Paran <paran620 at green.co.il>
To: 'Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list' <trauma-list at trauma.org>
Sent: Mon, 5 May 2008 1:40 pm
Subject: RE: interesting zone I GSW



I think I would have started with a CT-angio in the first place.

Haim Paran

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
On Behalf Of SJASMD at aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:05 PM
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Subject: Re: interesting zone I GSW

 
In a message dated 5/4/2008 11:27:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
shebrain1 at yahoo.com writes:

I would  do very careful exam to R/O any other GSW to abd, to help explain 
his  hypotension which i think is due to hemorrhage and possible initial 
neurogenic  origin.

how about his LU pulse exam, any  difference? any bruit over supraclavicular

region , any arm swelling, that  might suggest AVF with Hyperdynamic state 
that can explain his increased  BP.

the Chest Tube out put is 1600 ml Over how long  time? or better how  much 
over the last 2-3 hours?

if patient remained stable with decreasing CT out put, I would  obesrve, if 
any Q about integrity of aorta I would have IVUS to  evlaute.
I would admit to ICU, get EKG and possible TEE and  observe.unless become 
unstable.


ss


no other injuries
pulses symetrical
no bruit
no arm swelling
possibly over resuscitated to cause bp increase?
output was over about six hours. by end of angio, output stopped. still  
residual blood in the chest
ekg normal
currently being observed
 
would ken mattox do a CT of the chest after a negative angiogram?
 
sal



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